Flipping blogs

December 20th, 200528 Comments

As promised in my previous post, here is my story, advice, or whatever you want to call it on flipping blogs. Since I most recently sold The Poker Blog I will base the advice on the success of this sale. While I’m describing how to flip blogs, almost all of this applies to selling content sites or communities as well.

Build it

First, you need to build a blog (or website). When you’re building a new blog you should think about what adds value to a website. I try to work on a few key areas that I think will help make a sale.

1. Content - People are looking to buy websites that have a lot of original content. This means less work for them. The beauty of buying an established website is that it already has a lot of content and requires a lot less work. With The Poker Blog I posted everyday for 3 months. I enlisted the help of my friend, Steve, and he posted too. We have over 100 posts in 3 months and every post is a decent size with original content. I cannot stress the importance of providing unique content enough, it keeps visitors coming back and it makes your site much more valuable.

2. PageRank / Backlinks - Getting a high PageRank will help boost your search engine traffic while you own the website and it will also help add value when you’re selling it. People like to see a site with a PR4 or higher, it lets them know the site is established and has a nice number of links coming back to it. I am by no means an Search Engine Optimization expert, but I achieved a PR5 on The Poker Blog very easily. All I did was say yes to people who offered to exchange links with me and post every day. Google loves new content and I was rewarded with a PageRank of 5 on their first update after The Poker Blog launched.

3. Traffic - Another great thing about buying established websites is that they already have a bit of traffic coming to them on a regular basis. My feed at The Poker Blog has 35 people subscribed and I average 100 unique visits a day. Nothing incredible, but it is a great start. If someone wanted to start a new blog about poker it would take at least a month to get to that point (unless your Weblogs, Inc).

Pricing your website

How do you price a website? I’m not sure, actually. You need to include a lot of different factors, including revenue, PageRank, backlinks, traffic, design, maintenance, etc. If you have a great design that took a lot of time it will certainly add to the price. If you have a high PR it will add more to the price. How much more? Only you can decide.

I set the “Buy It Now” option in my auction to $2400 for The Poker Blog. That is almost 20 months of revenue, which is a lot of money for a website - it would take almost two years to recover that money if the website’s revenue stays the same. But I also priced in my unique design, the PageRank, and the established traffic. I may have sold myself short, but I felt like $2400 was a fair amount of money in return for the work I put into the website.

Selling it

Selling a website is easy. Selling it well is not as easy. I sell my websites at SitePoint.com. You can also try Ebay or a number of other forums that have a marketplace for selling websites. I choose SitePoint because I trust a lot of the people on the forum and I have never had a problem.

You need to be 100% honest with your potential buyers. Do not leave out any detail that could influence someone when buying your website. When I sold The Poker Blog my auction included warnings regarding the legalities of advertising poker in the United States, I included an image of the web stats, 3 images proving that the revenue information I provided was true, and I explained my reasons for selling the website. Be as open as you can.

I have sold a lot of websites on SitePoint.com and every sale has gone smoothly because I am as honest as I can be. If someone has a question or a comment about the site I respond as quickly as I can. Some sales get negative comments and people question how honest the seller is, but I have never had that happen, I actually get comments from people that tell me I have a great site!

Flipping websites can be very profitable, it’s actually how I made money all summer because I didn’t have much luck finding a job. I’m glad I didn’t find a real job though, I learned a lot building websites and selling them and it was much more satisfying than working 9-5 all summer.

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Mariano | December 20, 2005

Great guide to flipping blogs! I think pricing the blog is the hardest part because it shouldn’t be based only on future revenues, PR and design, perhaps it should be approached like a tradititonal company, shouldn’t it?

imjeremystein | December 20, 2005

thats foolish… people buy teams not websites.

Ben | December 20, 2005

Not sure what you mean by foolish. Plenty of people buy websites - so you’re wrong. Maybe if you back up your comment with some ideas it would make more sense.

imjeremystein | December 20, 2005

absolutely its foolish. who would buy a blog without the blogger? you might as well sell designs or domain names.

Ben | December 20, 2005

Jeremy - There are blog networks and media companies that have plenty of bloggers and are looking for established blogs so that they can start off with some traffic.

Selling designs and domain names isn’t nearly as profitable as flipping blogs.

There is a significant amount of evidence that proves selling blogs is profitable. I know of another Babson student is sells them.

imjeremystein | December 20, 2005

WIN and gawker do not buy blogs… show me one established company like that who does?

Ben | December 20, 2005

WIN and Gawker are not the companies I’m talking about. There are hundreds of blog networks/media companies looking to buy good content. If a blog has good content, they’re interested.

If the only blog networks you’re paying attention to are Gawker and WIN then I don’t think you have an authoratative opinion on selling blogs and whether or not it’s profitable.

Mariano | December 20, 2005

Not always people buy teams. I’ve seen many dotcom companies being bought without the team just to gain market or being bought just for the good idea!

Rory | December 20, 2005

Hey, Ben
I am thinking about entering the industry of Selling Sites etc.
Since you have sold couples sites, could you explain the process after the sale has concluded. And the transfer process begins.
To ensure agaisnt fraud etc.To ensure agaisnt fraud etc.

No I dont plan to sell, The Special Olympics Log :)

Yaro | December 20, 2005

Ben - if you got 2.4K for your poker blog then I think you did great, especially as the sitepoint valuations are typically at around 10x monthly revenue and you got closer to 20.

I think you benefited from the niche being very easy to monetize and there certainly is a boom in Poker at the moment. As a poker player running a blog like that would be a nice earner if you continued to write strategy.

So much money thrown around in poker, it’s nuts.
Nice write up too - it would be good to hear more about your other buying and selling activities. I was in fact planning a blog specifically about flipping websites so perhaps we should talk about some collaboration…

Ben | December 20, 2005

Rory - I will make sure to do another post on transferring domains, files, etc.

Yaro - A collaboration would be great :) It’s a lot of fun getting paid for doing something you enjoy like creating blogs :)

Dan Marques | December 21, 2005

Good post! I wrote a follow up post on my blog.

Does your blog accept trackbacks?

We had a mixup with selling the realestaterblog, someone sent a PM offering the BIN price and then backed out 2 days later, forcing us to go back to the auction which we had basically put on hold….oh well…lesson learned. We ended up selling it for about 4x revenue (nowhere near the 8-12x average on sitepoint)

I’m starting up two new flip projects in the next week or so. My partner and I are just narrowing down our choices.

[…] Andy Hagans posted about why he bought The Poker Blog and how he came to his valuation of it. Ben Bleikamp posted about how he created the site to sell. […]

Robert ‘Groby’ Blum | December 22, 2005

Hm. Maybe my math is off, but it doesn’t seem to be a very lucrative deal. Work invested = 120 hours. (100 hours for 100 articles, 20 hours setup, SEO, design, etc.) That’s $20/h, and only because you got a good offer. At 10x revenue, you’d get $10/h.

At that price, it almost seems a better idea to drive up revenue - if you can increase it by a dollar within an hour, you say in equilibrium. Anything more, and you are increasing your blog value and hence total price.

Now my missing piece of the puzzle is, how hard is it to drive up blog value? I’m just starting this whole business, so I wouldn’t even know where to look….

Hendry Lee | December 23, 2005

Ben, I think your main concern is about sutainablity of the blog.

That’s why in the valuation process, I recommend thinking about the investment or joint venture possibilities with other bloggers, if buyers don’t have the time or inclination to blog on their own.

Ben | December 23, 2005

Robert - Your math is off a bit. For the articles on The Poker Blog I spent maybe 20-30 minutes writing them, so cut that time spent on articles in half. I also didn’t spend much time on SEO - I simple added link exchanges to the sidebar/footer and posted regularly - I did nothing else other than code the site in XHTML/CSS and use h1, h2, h3, etc. properly.

The reason I didn’t focus on article quality as much as I do on College Startup is that I didn’t want my readers to latch on to my specific writing style, otherwise selling the blog would have been more difficult. The writing is very straight forward and I simply tell stories or explain strategies, I try not too include too much personal commentary.

[…] y por otro lado, siguiendo enlaces, llegamos a los consejos de Ben Bleikamp para vender un blog: The Poker Blog. […]

[…] I noticed a few posts of flipping blogs today. It all starts on College Startup with a discussion of how the guy flipped his poker blog. There is a follow up at Start-Up Guide: Blog Flip Project Results and the guy who actually purchased the blog also chimes in. I have never purchased a blog, but I have bought a number of domain names and one or two sites. In all cases, it was a relatively easy transaction. Throughout the articles, they mention a few places to sell the blog. I was surprised that they did not mention Dnforum.com. I have found some excellent sites and domains posted there. […]

[…] Deep down I think Ben must be a genius. Ok, I know he is. He is the former owner of ThePokerBlog.net, recently he sold it. He made a nice sum on it. And walked away. Losing the value right? Nah. See Ben joined Erati Media a division of BlogMedia Inc. He also brought his writer with him. So we get the writer, and the owner. So while Andy Haggans bought a blog, we got the better end of the stick and spent a lot less money. It was truly my best hand of poker ever. I could have bought ThePokerBlog.net, in fact our network made a deal on it. But didn’t get it. Instead we got the owner, the blogger, and didnt spend a dime. Now they are apart of our great team. […]

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Kelley Ritchey | January 9, 2006

Thanks for your informaive post.

I wrote up several post about the small business branding post and would like to feature your poker blog sale also in the next few days, especially as both the buyer and seller have provided good insight into their process.

[…] Ben Bleikamp wrote about selling blogs back in December, and I thought it would be interesting to take a look at it from the other side of the coin. I purchased Mobile Herald last week and this is some of what I learned about website buying. […]

Jason Brown | July 1, 2006

uhmm.. after being in the web development industry for over 10 years.. there is not much I haven’t done or seen in IT or online.

A blog is a website, no way around it.. and a website can be a business, and many are a business. Example: Sitepoint is a portal, that is a website, which also has blogs, that is a business.

People buy business, people buy websites and domains, people buy blogs.

I don’t know how to put it any easier than that. Essentially, flipping a blog is flipping a website, which is flipping a business.
So all this talk about ‘who would buy a blog and not the blogger’, or ‘people buy teams and not blogs’ is just plain stupid. People buy business ( or sites ) all the time, fire all the management and workers, and start over with a new ‘team’.

I think if you build a site or business, work at it, and then sell it.. you’ve done something many people in world only wish they could do.. congrats your now enlisted in a very lucreative group of people in the world!

The price doesn’t matter either, you sell it for what you think it is worth yourself. I know when I was in college, just getting 100.00 dollars in my pocket was hard. If I could have built websites back then, found a good market/buyer, and got $2400.00 for it, I would have lasted all summer and most of the upcoming semester on it.

Congrats on your sell

[…] Over the past few months I have been working on a little side project at Classhelpers. I originally created the site after being inspired to flip (re: build and sell for a profit) the site after reading an article over at College Startup, but now I am considering holding onto it. […]

[…] Flipping Blogs? It is means a person who builds a blog site, name a price and then selling it after a while. This infomation i was getting it from Flipping blogs was written by Ben Bleikamp. This also means a person can earn much on a blog, it is another site income revenue. Here is some idea Ben gave : You need to be 100% honest with your potential buyers. Do not leave out any detail that could influence someone when buying your website. When I sold The Poker Blog my auction included warnings regarding the legalities of advertising poker in the United States, I included an image of the web stats, 3 images proving that the revenue information I provided was true, and I explained my reasons for selling the website. Be as open as you can. […]

[…] Flipping Blogs: What in the world is this and why would anyone do it? Since blogs = cyber real estate, it’s no surprise, but it seems just so…faddy. But it’s happening. It’s not one for those who are more emotionally invested and rooted in their own little piece of the net. You’d less likely flip if your blog is an extension of yourself or if you use it for creative expression. […]

doolally | February 13, 2007

@imjeremystein

People buy.
Domain age
Content
Accumulated Links
Readership
Members

Ebay Secretos | September 16, 2007

some real good advice here for when selling your site. I like the part about having good original content…excellent! Nice weblog btw.

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Flipping blogs was written by Ben Bleikamp on December 20th, 2005 at 2:04 pm and posted in Blogging, Business Ideas, Content, Flipping websites

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