Forget about grades!

November 29th, 20058 Comments

I’ve been browsing the internet on my girlfriends computer since mine died (and no, I can’t go a week without using a computer). Since I don’t have any of my bookmarks I’ve been forced to click links and browse new sites and I’ve been finding some really good stuff.

I’m sure a lot of people have seen this article, but I think it’s worth posting, especially since my site targets college students (like me). Your College is not a Technical School explains the importance of doing more in college than earning good grades. It actually explains that getting a 4.0 is not necessarily a good thing…shocking, right?

I’ve always kind of followed this philosophy, but this explains what else I should be doing: taking risks, trying new things, meeting new people, and making good friends are the most important things to take away from college. Obviously I’m at Ohio State to learn, and I realize that I can’t get a 2.5 GPA. But why do I need a 4.0? Just because it’s the highest I can get?

As it turns out I don’t need a 4.0 and an internship at a huge international corporation where I make spreadsheets to outline the expenses of the marketing department - which I’ve always realized, but Paul Graham verifies this:

I asked managers at Yahoo, Google, Amazon, Cisco and Microsoft how they’d feel about two candidates, both 24, with equal ability, one who’d tried to start a startup that tanked, and another who’d spent the two years since college working as a developer at a big company. Every one responded that they’d prefer the guy who’d tried to start his own company. Zod Nazem, who’s in charge of engineering at Yahoo, said:

“I actually put more value on the guy with the failed startup. And you can quote me!”

So there you have it. Want to get hired by Yahoo? Start your own company.

On that note, I do work hard in my classes and take my education seriously, but I have no intentions of working in finance or marketing at Procter and Gamble or Citigroup or any of the other huge companies in the United States. I’d much rather work at (or start) a small startup and build things that people talk about and make decisions that have an impact on what the company does and what direction it takes. I can’t get that at P&G.

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Forget about grades!

Kyle | November 29, 2005

Amen to that. I came to college to learn, no more, no less. I don’t put a high importance on getting good grades beause honestly, I don’t care. I’d rather learn the material, learn more about the world, and graduate debt-free than gain a point on my GPA.

People who hire people always feel the same. They’d rather hire an Engineer with a 2.5 GPA & 2 years work experience than a kid with a 3.8 GPA and is now 23 and finally realizing that electricity costs money.

Ben | November 29, 2005

Well I wouldn’t want to see someone with a GPA below a 3.0, but 3.0-3.5 is definitely a great GPA.

Adam Bouskila | November 30, 2005

Right on, Ben. Ramit’s website is a terrific resource as well as entertaining.

Life is a game of balance. The quote you provided above from Paul Graham’s essay ‘Hiring is Obsolete’ sends out a clear and strong message. Experience is key; put the books down and start participating in life, make mistakes, and learn plenty.

I wonder about the psychology behind making mistakes and how it helps our minds to tightly grasp ideas, that would be an interesting topic to explore.

Nicole | November 30, 2005

While I agree that grades aren’t everything in getting a job — blowing them off completely has other ill side effects. One can get many scholarships in college based on grades (ones you don’t even have to apply for — they find you). It’s kind of hard to do a start up when one is in lots of debt because one lost the scholarships to the 3.8-4.0 people.

Besides, why not have it all? Kick ass at school, and get your experience in on the side. I’m a firm believer one can do it all.

Chris P. | November 30, 2005

On the about page of my personal essay website, I mentioned that I would someday like to be able to speak to college kids about things that I feel are most important at that point in one’s life.

For me, the emphasis was always on grades, and I totally excelled in that forum. Now, however, I’m 24, and I can honestly say that all those A’s MEANT NOTHING. Period. NOTHING.

If I were to advise a young college student about how best to spend his/her time, I would suggest that he or she absolutely begin to take business risks. Try out new things and test your skills in a live forum. I would KILL to have four years of beta testing time. Can you imagine??

Paul Stamatiou | December 1, 2005

Awesome that’s good news. I’ve got lots of extracurricular ventures to ago along with those decent grades of mine.

Dan Marques | December 1, 2005

Right on!

While some Invenio Group members have good GPAs the majority just do ok. None of us place an emphasis on grades. Our goal is to never have to apply for a job, so what is the importance of GPA? I learn what I want and put in the effort I need to but greater rewards come from taking risks in my ventures and helping other entrepreneurs.

Share your thoughts!!!

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Forget about grades! was written by Ben Bleikamp on November 29th, 2005 at 7:02 pm and posted in Education

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