Where are social networks going?

June 16th, 20068 Comments

socialnet.pngI use Facebook as the primary example in this article only because I have a Facebook account – I’ve never used MySpace because I can’t stand the fact that they let people design their own user pages and people choose to make them hideous.

For the past year or so I’ve been a member of Facebook. I log in once or twice a month, usually when I get a friend request email. I’ve been wondering for a while how social networking sites make money. Not only social networking sites, but forums too, which are basically the social networks of 5 years ago.

My issue lies in the fact that the people visiting these sites aren’t looking for new information, they’re not looking for products. The reason they’re at the site is because they want to talk to friends, look at pictures, update their profile, or play with the other (useless) options that are available.

How do you monetize this type of user? Why is MySpace worth $500,000,000? Why does Facebook think they’re worth $2,000,000,000? Because they have a lot of people logging into their website everyday? Well, that’s cool, but it’s not worth billions of dollars. There is no patent on the social network idea and it certainly wouldn’t cost me $2 billion to hire a few brilliant PHP coders and a world class designer to start my own social network.

You’re probably thinking, “But Ben, you still have to get people to sign up for your network!”

You’re right – so maybe I won’t start the network. But what if a company like MTV did? They already have a high traffic site and a bunch of marketing people working for them, they might be able to get people to start signing up. Hire a few brilliant idea guys to work with those PHP programmers and suddenly you have an innovative social network developing, one that could potentially take the market share away from MySpace or Facebook. Oh – and MTV already makes money from their incredibly popular television network and their other properties, so their social network doesn’t even have to be particularly profitable, it simply provides another way to connect with people already using their products and keeps them using MTV owned properties.

Why advertising won’t work for a social network

Well, it’s really pretty simple. People aren’t actively looking for information. But I’ll elaborate a little bit.

The reason Google AdWords is so successful is because when people search Google for information they are actively looking for a website that can give them what they’re looking for. When your advertisement appears they know that if they click your advertisement they can get closer to their goal of getting information. They click the ad. If they are prompted to buy an ebook to get their information, some people will buy it. Others will keep searching, even if it means clicking more ads. The point is, the advertising works.

I know that companies have been advertising with television commercials for years, but it’s not the same thing as a banner on a website. A commercial is the only thing happening on the television at a given point in time and the commercial has 30 seconds to connect with the person watching it. A web banner probably has less than a few seconds. Add in the fact that this banner is competing with information that people are more interested in and suddenly you have a pretty low return on investment. Even if someone clicks a random banner because it looks interesting they’re not in a “buy” state of mind, they’re just curious.

People logging into Facebook are looking for information that lies within the Facebook site itself, not at an advertiser’s website. When I login to Facebook I’m not hoping to find out how much the latest cell phone costs, I’m trying to find someone in my class that knows what homework is due tomorrow. I’m certainly not paying attention to advertisements. Why would I? Do the advertisers know what homework is due? Of course not.

Maybe someone will figure this out…maybe.

Facebook has come up with creative solutions, such as “fliers” and classified ads that students can buy at a relatively cheap price. I don’t have any revenue figures, but I can’t imagine selling a few $5 fliers here and there will add up to pay the salaries of programmers, designers, account executives, etc. Oh well – at least it’s a start.

I’m certainly not disputing the value of social networks or the fact that people like them, I’m simply asking whether or not they’re actually worth hundreds of millions of dollars. There is proof that one social network can topple another so why buy one when you can build one (remember Friendster?)? Obviously sites like LinkedIn are important, Facebook is important, hell, even MySpace might be important…might be. These sites can’t and won’t just disappear.

If you can answer any of my questions or think I’m wrong, let me know. Explain to me why advertising at Facebook is money well spent. Tell me why someone should spend money to advertise at MySpace.com.

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Dan Marques | June 16, 2006

I’ve advertised on Facebook a few times…results were negligible at best. You are right, it is untargeted traffic. However, certain advertising (i.e. Pepsi/Coke/Doritos) that you see everyone, no one is looking for those ads, and any attention is something. So while the valuation may be off, they do control a lot of eyeballs and that has at least some value.

I think advertising is the easy way out for these sites…How should they be making money
-Gathering trend data and selling it to research companies
-Partnering with sites like craigslist to increase traffic and provide an alternative revenue stream (% of paid ads)

Chris Pund | June 16, 2006

In my experience in using the facebook fliers they have been successful. I have used them to market different campus organizations and products to the student body at my school. If you product or service is student focused and driven, they are the perfect route to go and very cheap for the amount of exposure it gets your ad.

Devin | June 16, 2006

I think you’ll find the money comes from the ’sponsored groups’. Here companies can attract eyeballs and customers by assimilating. How do they accomplish this? New movies post short clips, new video games post contests, companies sponsor exciting and popular events (Final Four Brackets) and even create merchandise (today I’m wearing a Dave Matthews Band tour t-shirt with “facebook” on the sleeve, just becuase I donated a few bucks).

This is the model to make money. MySpace plans to follow up soon enough. They’re realizing that, yes, $0.10 CPM ads won’t get them where they really want to be…

Fliers used to work back when you were one of the 3 fliers for the entire school. Now the market is getting a bit saturated. Our school group didn’t get nearly the response it did when we posted an ad last year. People have learned to ignore them, already. ;-)

Taylor | June 16, 2006

I agree with you on a lot of points.

However, Facebook put its mark at $2 billion because of its potential not as a site to paste ads all over but as a tool for market analysis.

Because members/students/employees fill in their favorite music, movies, books, etc. this data can be gathered using a tool such as FaceBook’s “Pulse” (I’m sure MySpace has something similar, that is unpublished):

http://www.facebook.com/pulse.php

Facebook was nearly bought for this very reason. Viacom (owns MTV) has considered placing a bid; until the FaceBook team decided to find a round of investors and expand their service.

Is it really worth trying to make a living worth $2 billion on just ad views and “flyer” sales? Probably not. It (FaceBook) will be sold…. eventually.

[...] That’s where they would really make MySpace pay off. Because until then I think Ben is right. Social Networks aren’t worth 2 Billion Dollars. [...]

Tom | June 20, 2006

Ben raised an very interesting topic.

Here is my 2 cents.

Advertising is about impression. This is true for website and TV. Impression itself can not directly guarantee a sale but it does increase the odd. Therefore, any platform that can generate impressions has some value. So popular site has a value, popular TV channel has value…

Then the question become how much it worth when a site has this much viewers. This is a tricky question especially for social website.

I think social website has more adversiting value than tradition media(TV, web1.0) since it has another dimension of marketing channel — word of mouth.

Basially, I think internet itself now is a big social community.

Dan | June 23, 2006

The reason that socail networks are valued at so much money is the ammount of influence they have. Here is a question, why is it so hard to get into Facebook… why? I still don’t have an account.

Andries | August 29, 2007

Hi,

Im certainly not an advertising or media guru, but there surely is value to be extracted from creating platforms where people can interact, share ideas and views, etc etc… and if one subtly and gently add elements to the mix that involves consumerism, then money starts rolling.

Whether any social networking site can be worth billions, can’t express a view since I don’t know who knocks on FB’s doors, ready to buy information or gain access to who knows what is on offer… In fact, it would be interesting to know what the cashflow situation in a co like FB, Friendster etc etc is. Any idea?

Im still getting my hands around blogging, and yes I do have an account of LInkedIn and FB… to see first-hand what it is all about and to test each and every feature thats out there…. well, its one way to seperate the garbish from, maybe other garbish?

So, what’s at the very bottom of it all? Human nature? A need for recognition, a need for a platform? Why, for example, update status and say things like “Im eating ice cream with my grandmother”…Is this a form of cyber exhibitionism?

I wonder if people’s identities in global village has been dwarfed and that they are desperate to be heard in some way or the other? Has nationalism given way to individualism and is the place for its display found in SN sites??

Never forget the human condition — maybe I must go back and read Psychology for Dummies.

Keep writing…

Share your thoughts!!!

Where are social networks going? was written by Ben Bleikamp on June 16th, 2006 at 2:29 am and posted in Advertising, Marketing, Social Networks

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