Comments on: Why isn’t the New York Times more like Digg or Newsvine? http://www.college-startup.com/web-20/why-isnt-the-new-york-times-more-like-digg-or-newsvine/ Making money from a dorm room Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:27:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Conspiracy Bob http://www.college-startup.com/web-20/why-isnt-the-new-york-times-more-like-digg-or-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-1559 Conspiracy Bob Fri, 07 Jul 2006 08:05:30 +0000 http://www.college-startup.com/2006/06/132/#comment-1559 If the NYT turned into Digg it would probably degenerate quickly. Digg has some great news, but the maturity level of the commenters is often low. Digg often turns into a frenzy of impulsively burying comments of all the people who disagree. If the NYT went that route, I think that it would polarize the country even more as people spent hours trying to manipulate the slant of the newspaper for political ends. If the NYT turned into Digg it would probably degenerate quickly. Digg has some great news, but the maturity level of the commenters is often low. Digg often turns into a frenzy of impulsively burying comments of all the people who disagree. If the NYT went that route, I think that it would polarize the country even more as people spent hours trying to manipulate the slant of the newspaper for political ends.

]]> By: Jason Brown http://www.college-startup.com/web-20/why-isnt-the-new-york-times-more-like-digg-or-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-1512 Jason Brown Sun, 02 Jul 2006 03:27:43 +0000 http://www.college-startup.com/2006/06/132/#comment-1512 There is still something to be said for editors of print/online media. Being an editor or even a reporter, takes skill and and certain flare to be great at. If you let the masses control what gets printed, it's not always a fantastic success like Digg came out to be, but part of Digg's success ( such as /. ) is the fact it was niched to Tech news and articles. I doubt my grandfather, and many other non-tech enabled people, will be able to 'digg' a story for the New York Times, thus leaving a still large percentage of readers out of the picture if it was user driven. There is still something to be said for editors of print/online media. Being an editor or even a reporter, takes skill and and certain flare to be great at.

If you let the masses control what gets printed, it’s not always a fantastic success like Digg came out to be, but part of Digg’s success ( such as /. ) is the fact it was niched to Tech news and articles.

I doubt my grandfather, and many other non-tech enabled people, will be able to ‘digg’ a story for the New York Times, thus leaving a still large percentage of readers out of the picture if it was user driven.

]]> By: Frank http://www.college-startup.com/web-20/why-isnt-the-new-york-times-more-like-digg-or-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-1498 Frank Sat, 01 Jul 2006 08:19:20 +0000 http://www.college-startup.com/2006/06/132/#comment-1498 It isn't always best to go with the masses. The truth doesn't change based on what the masses want to know. It isn’t always best to go with the masses. The truth doesn’t change based on what the masses want to know.

]]> By: Ben Bleikamp http://www.college-startup.com/web-20/why-isnt-the-new-york-times-more-like-digg-or-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-1496 Ben Bleikamp Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:01:03 +0000 http://www.college-startup.com/2006/06/132/#comment-1496 Well, social bookmarking and social networking and social news sites are related but not the same. And I agree that list of stories from Newsvine is a bit ... lackluster. But in my experience the front page stories on Newsvine are much more diverse than what you listed there. And also, when I check each section of Newsvine I get a list of "most active" users and I can tell what they find interesting. I can see what my friends find interesting. I can see what the people on my watchlist are writing. How can I do that on the NYTimes website? I can't even watch my favorite authors. Well, social bookmarking and social networking and social news sites are related but not the same.

And I agree that list of stories from Newsvine is a bit … lackluster. But in my experience the front page stories on Newsvine are much more diverse than what you listed there.

And also, when I check each section of Newsvine I get a list of “most active” users and I can tell what they find interesting.

I can see what my friends find interesting. I can see what the people on my watchlist are writing.

How can I do that on the NYTimes website? I can’t even watch my favorite authors.

]]> By: JD Arney http://www.college-startup.com/web-20/why-isnt-the-new-york-times-more-like-digg-or-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-1495 JD Arney Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:54:28 +0000 http://www.college-startup.com/2006/06/132/#comment-1495 I'm showing the most voted on stories at Newsvine right now to be: * The RIAA and MPAA could learn from Gary Larson (27 votes) * Why We Love Conspiracies (22 votes) * What OS X 10.5 'Leopard' actually needs, is what we should already have. (18 votes) * A War on Nouns (18 votes) I'm still failing to see how that's a better model than The New York Times. I have a lot of problems with traditional media, I just don't think social bookmarking is the way to solve them. I’m showing the most voted on stories at Newsvine right now to be:

* The RIAA and MPAA could learn from Gary Larson (27 votes)
* Why We Love Conspiracies (22 votes)
* What OS X 10.5 ‘Leopard’ actually needs, is what we should already have. (18 votes)
* A War on Nouns (18 votes)

I’m still failing to see how that’s a better model than The New York Times.

I have a lot of problems with traditional media, I just don’t think social bookmarking is the way to solve them.

]]> By: Ben Bleikamp http://www.college-startup.com/web-20/why-isnt-the-new-york-times-more-like-digg-or-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-1494 Ben Bleikamp Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:38:16 +0000 http://www.college-startup.com/2006/06/132/#comment-1494 I disagree with both of you. On Newsvine there is lots of great information on every topic. The users pick great stories to vote for. Digg is a bad example because it is a technology site. Newsvine is a news site and they have all the same stories that every major newspaper has. There is information that gets buried in newspapers because editors don't think it's interesting. But it is interesting. It needs to be heard. I disagree with both of you. On Newsvine there is lots of great information on every topic. The users pick great stories to vote for. Digg is a bad example because it is a technology site. Newsvine is a news site and they have all the same stories that every major newspaper has.

There is information that gets buried in newspapers because editors don’t think it’s interesting. But it is interesting. It needs to be heard.

]]> By: Nick http://www.college-startup.com/web-20/why-isnt-the-new-york-times-more-like-digg-or-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-1493 Nick Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:58:11 +0000 http://www.college-startup.com/2006/06/132/#comment-1493 I tend to agree with JD here. The NY Times is a great source of information, and they point out things that people should know (for the most part). That's why their editors are picked so carefully. I wouldn't trust my main source of news consumption to be chosen by the people at large. I want experts who know what's good and what isn't. Full time devotees to the news. The general public is pretty idiotic sometimes and I generally don't trust them to disseminate valuable information a majority of the time. The NY Times provides that service for me. I tend to agree with JD here. The NY Times is a great source of information, and they point out things that people should know (for the most part). That’s why their editors are picked so carefully.

I wouldn’t trust my main source of news consumption to be chosen by the people at large. I want experts who know what’s good and what isn’t. Full time devotees to the news. The general public is pretty idiotic sometimes and I generally don’t trust them to disseminate valuable information a majority of the time. The NY Times provides that service for me.

]]> By: JD Arney http://www.college-startup.com/web-20/why-isnt-the-new-york-times-more-like-digg-or-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-1492 JD Arney Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:27:00 +0000 http://www.college-startup.com/2006/06/132/#comment-1492 That would be ridiculously terrible. People like American Idol. People are often wrong. How often do you see news on Iraq on Digg? Worldwide events? If people voted on NYT stories all you'd see would be quirky, funny, and odd. I don't see that as a good thing. News isn't always meant to be interesting, sometimes it's meant to inform the public of things it deserves to know. That would be ridiculously terrible.

People like American Idol. People are often wrong.

How often do you see news on Iraq on Digg? Worldwide events?

If people voted on NYT stories all you’d see would be quirky, funny, and odd. I don’t see that as a good thing.

News isn’t always meant to be interesting, sometimes it’s meant to inform the public of things it deserves to know.

]]> By: Jesse J. Anderson http://www.college-startup.com/web-20/why-isnt-the-new-york-times-more-like-digg-or-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-1490 Jesse J. Anderson Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:04:30 +0000 http://www.college-startup.com/2006/06/132/#comment-1490 I love Digg... but I certainly don't go to it to find what the big news or breaking news is. An editor-less user-driven news site will never replace the traditional news site, rather it has created it's own place in the world of news sites. I love Digg… but I certainly don’t go to it to find what the big news or breaking news is. An editor-less user-driven news site will never replace the traditional news site, rather it has created it’s own place in the world of news sites.

]]> By: Taylor http://www.college-startup.com/web-20/why-isnt-the-new-york-times-more-like-digg-or-newsvine/comment-page-1/#comment-1488 Taylor Fri, 30 Jun 2006 04:11:40 +0000 http://www.college-startup.com/2006/06/132/#comment-1488 kidding. :-) kidding. :-)

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